Session Start: Mon Jul 11 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[00:32]<@BC_Programming> I'm here tux
[00:33]<Tux2> Nice. just wanted to let you know that a few blocks got chopped off your youtube sign in the world we are making because of chunk corruption.
[00:34]<Tux2> nothing major though
[00:34]<@BC_Programming> ok
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[11:30]<Tux2> Hey sonicrules1234, have you seen this yet: http://tux2mc.tk/article.php?story=20110708132525839
[11:31]<sonicrules1234> Tux2: Yeah, I made a nice small clock on it too
[11:31]<sonicrules1234> Way smaller than craig's
[11:32]<Tux2> ah... yeah, I made that thing into an annoyance machine with noteblocks for a second. ;)
[11:32]<sonicrules1234> xD
[11:32]<sonicrules1234> Are you on the server right now?
[11:32]<Tux2> Not at the moment, not on lunchbreak yet.
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[11:33]<sonicrules1234> Tux2: An updated industrialcraft came out as well
[11:33]<Tux2> Nice!
[11:34]<+camerongray> Just made a mob farm
[11:34]<sonicrules1234> Now there are forcefield generators and teleporters, but the teleporters take 5 million eu
[11:34]<sonicrules1234> So teleporters aren't worth it
[11:35]<Tux2> lol....
[11:36]<sonicrules1234> Tux2: I think I know why the server crashed the other day
[11:36]<sonicrules1234> There was like a million pigs underneath the castle thing
[11:41]<Tux2> no, it didn't crash because of that...
[11:41]<Tux2> Lightning struck a power pole near my house.
[11:42]<Tux2> The whole neighborhood was out
[11:57]<+camerongray> Ahh
[11:58]<+camerongray> Underground power cables FTW!
[11:59]<Tux2> :) Yeah, our neighborhood is before that time.
[12:00]<+camerongray> lol
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> FUUUUUU
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> somehow put my wallet through the washing machine and dryer
[12:29]<+camerongray> Ouch
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> I had no money or anything in it
[12:30]<+camerongray> Well - That's lucky
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> had my birth certificate in it for some reason though
[12:30]<+camerongray> Oh
[12:30]<+camerongray> :(
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> I think it'll dry off fine
[12:30]<+camerongray> Yeh
[12:30]<+camerongray> Then make a copy of it!
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> I think that is illegal
[12:31]<+camerongray> It is?!?!?!
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> well at the very least a copy won't usable from what I understand
[12:32]<+camerongray> In the UK anyway may companies want copies for ID
[12:32]<+camerongray> Or just don't carry it with you :P
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> our birth certificates is totally useless for ID...
[12:33]<+camerongray> lol
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> ID needs a picture... even if there was a picture of your newborn self I doubt that would be particularly good
[12:33]<+camerongray> lol
[12:33]<+camerongray> I really don't like the post office - They make you take a passport
[12:33]<+camerongray> So you are risking it even though they never look at it
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> no just that whenever I take it out for "safekeeping" I lose it
[12:34]<+camerongray> One time - He took it looked at it without opening it and handed it back
[12:34]<+camerongray> lol
[12:34]<+camerongray> I keep mine in a fireproof safe
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> why do they make the bloody things out of paper anyway
[12:35]<+camerongray> lol
[12:35]<+camerongray> Soon it will all be digital
[12:35]<+camerongray> I've put a flash drive through the wash before - No damage at all
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> yeah oh and my headphones were in my pocket too it would seem
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> thought they would work but then noticed that they were ripped to shreads at the end
[12:36]<+camerongray> Ahh
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> they were the cheap ones that ame with my mp3 player though, but the only earbud headphones I have :(
[12:36]<+camerongray> Ahh
[12:36]<+camerongray> I managed to take my phone into a pool before - Dried it and it worked
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> what happens to leather when it get's wet anyway
[12:37]<+camerongray> It gets wet?
[12:37]<+camerongray> But screen had half of it dead and it sometimes turned off randomly
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> yeah but I thought leather was ruined in some way
[12:38]<+camerongray> hmm - Don't think so
[12:38]<+camerongray> Mine has never been in the wash but has been soaked before
[12:38]<+camerongray> And I mean SOAKED!
[12:39]<+camerongray> Running in a insane storm after school with a plastic bag over my head while trying to keep my laptop dry
[12:39]<@BC_Programming> whew, finally got my birth cert out of it's stupid protective case thing
[12:39]<+camerongray> Thankfully the bag was watertight enough
[12:39]<@BC_Programming> now to dry it faster with my desk fan :P
[12:40]<+camerongray> lol - Make sure it isn't folded :P
[12:40]<+camerongray> That was a fun day - Started off nicely so didn't even have a jacket
[12:40]<+camerongray> Just a shirt :P
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> heehee
[12:41]<+camerongray> Never been so soaked
[12:41]<+camerongray> My friend had a book in his bag that he never checked and looked the next week and it was going mouldy
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> at least my MP3 player didn't go through, it would definitely be ruined
[12:41]<+camerongray> lol - Yeh
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> since it has a giant gaping hole where the volume rocker used to be
[12:42]<+camerongray> Where did that go? :P
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> it fell off
[12:42]<+camerongray> lol
[12:42]<+camerongray> As long as it is dry before you power it it will be fine
[12:42]<+camerongray> I did that with my phone
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> the little button inside ripped off the board, so I took it apart and took out the rocker
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> now I adjust volume by sticking the metal end of a headphone jack inside and fiddling it a little until the volume goes up
[12:43]<+camerongray> The power switch on my old one fell off
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> volume down still has a button
[12:43]<Tux2> BC_Programming, wallet may shrink a bit, but should be fine
[12:43]<+camerongray> The trick is to completely disassemble it and put all the parts in rice - Dries it out great
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> I think my wallet has gotten wet before though, come to think of it
[12:44]<Tux2> :D
[12:44]<+camerongray> When I took my phone swimming I ran to the shop and bought some rice :P
[12:44]<+camerongray> Left it a week and BOOM! - Worked
[12:45]<+camerongray> I think the issues were down to getting bashed around in the water
[12:45]<+camerongray> Was a water park so would have been on slides and everything
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> why the hell are they switching bank cards to little chips
[12:45]<+camerongray> Because it's awesome
[12:45]<+camerongray> We only use them here
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> the chips don't actually hold anything different than the strip
[12:46]<+camerongray> You have a pin number instead of signing
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> I've never had to sign my card.... I've always had a pin
[12:46]<+camerongray> Ahh
[12:46]<+camerongray> We switched to the chip and pin a few years ago
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> the only difference now is that when you try to use the strip it says "use chip"
[12:46]<+camerongray> Nowhere accepts non chip cards now
[12:47]<+camerongray> I think the chip contains all sorts of encryption
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> all it holds is your bank account number
[12:47]<+camerongray> hmm
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> that's right on the front of the card
[12:47]<Tux2> In the US we still use strips
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> same info as the magnetic strip
[12:47]<+camerongray> Yeh - Saw that when I was over
[12:47]<+camerongray> Probably because it's harder to forge
[12:48]<Tux2> although the chip doesn't get damaged being swiped millions of times
[12:48]<+camerongray> Or with a magnet
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> magnets don't do anything to the magnetic strip, surprisingly enough
[12:48]<+camerongray> Oh yeh - They switched all the OAP bus pases to RFID now - Ahh the confusion
[12:48]<Tux2> lol, rubbing it off on your wallet does though...
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[12:49]<Tux2> Only thing is I use my card less than most americans so it's still good even being used for a couple years.
[12:49]<+camerongray> They get on, hold it up, driver tells them to put it on the reader, they usually drop it and it slides down by the window and the driver spends a few mins trying to get it back
[12:49]<@BC_Programming> lol
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> oh here's a funny thing I may had told before
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> they replaced the cash registers/tills at my work with these stupid gimmicky touchscreen things
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> bloody hell they are retarded
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> for one thing, they are running XP R-T freaking M
[12:50]<+camerongray> lol
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> second, they are slower than the older ones we had
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> wit hthe older ones you didn't have to wait for the machine, you just rang it all in and eventually hte machine caught up
[12:51]<Tux2> lol...
[12:51]<+camerongray> Here all the supermarkets are installing those self-service things
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> but now because we have the touchscreen there is no spatial memory, and the machine refuses to accept input it's not ready for, so any item that has another menu you push the touchscreen button, wait bloody 5 seconds, then you can interact again
[12:51]<+camerongray> They are such a pain
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> and they call it an "upgrade"
[12:52]<Tux2> lol!
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> it's not an upgrade just because it uses a touchscreen and is more colorful
[12:52]<+camerongray> lol
[12:52]<Tux2> At my work we have a computer to do it, but it works fast.
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> and when it shows the total price, of course it shows it in miniscule font in the bottom corner despite it's importance
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> and then when you push the cash button you have to go through another menu where you are supposed to say how much they gave you
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> I know how to do math, dammit
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> just open the damned cash drawer
[12:53]<Tux2> You forget BC_Programming, most people don't...'
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> yeah I know, but I don't appreciate having to wait an extra 10 seconds for other peoples fiobles with basic arithmetic
[12:55]<Tux2> besides, giving change, if you learn it right is stupid simple.
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> I mean why is there an entry for when they give you 2 dollars. Really who needs to have the machine do that for them
[12:55]<Tux2> When the product price is $1.47 or something like that...
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> or you could just give them 53 cents
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> I mean the various buttons are only for calculating change
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> there is a "just open the fecking cash drawer" button, but because the bloody machine is so slow that's another 5 seconds wasted
[12:58]<@BC_Programming> and all of them are complaining about issues reading files from the disk, and need chkdsk and whatever to be run
[12:59]<Tux2> lol... what's the name of the POS system?
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> ClearView Plus I believe
[12:59]<Tux2> POS meaning Point of Sale
[12:59]<Tux2> ah...
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> I already copied some of the files and decompiled then with ILSpy- it's written in VB.NET
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> no big surprise there
[13:00]<Tux2> :)
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> all the DB passwords and usernames are hard-coded too, that was a chuckle
[13:00]<Tux2> You should download the program, and then re-write it to be faster and better, then copy it back over. ;)
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> not worth the effort
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> I was tempted to just change the resources to put the basecamp logo in places though, heh
[13:01]<Tux2> :) That would be a fun practical joke.
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> what makes that funny is what would happen
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> they would probably just replace the system entirely
[13:02]<Tux2> I'm assuming that these computers aren't well locked down at all.
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> that's what they did with the other computer when they were trying to make us watch "training videos" yeah, if you are going to do that, do it while we're being trained
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> not after we've worked there for 5 fecking years
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> I wrote a small VB program that made the training thing error out
[13:02]<Tux2> lol...
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> they apparently took it to a shop and they replaced the motherboard *facepalm*
[13:03]<Tux2> :O
[13:03]<Tux2> A simple reload would have fixed it...
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> or they could have made the shortcut point back to the right program
[13:04]<Tux2> lol, yeah
[13:04]<Tux2> It's amazing what people miss, or get away with doing.
[13:06]<sonicrules1234> So who's on the server right now?
[13:06]<Tux2> dunno, just do: /players
[13:07]<sonicrules1234> I'm talking about the one for the youtube reviewers
[13:07]<sonicrules1234> -s
[13:07]<sonicrules1234> Where /players doesn't do anything
[13:08]<Tux2> oh...
[13:10]<sonicrules1234> Doesn't look like anyone is on
[13:12]<Tux2> well, it has been a little quiet today, but was bustling a day or two ago
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Session Start: Mon Jul 11 13:40:08 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [13:40] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[13:41]<+Craig> BC_Programming you here?
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> I am
[13:41]<+Craig> Camerongray you here too?
[13:41]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Yes.. me too.
[13:41]<+camerongray> Indeed
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> hello Craig
[13:42]<@jacky> aha
[13:42]<+Craig> Cool, Jacky wanted to ask you something. :P
[13:42]<@jacky> yes, thanks
[13:42]<+Craig> And hello Cameron, and BC
[13:42]<+Craig> :)
[13:42]<@jacky> I have friends (believe it or not) ... wedding soon
[13:42]<@jacky> will be a webcast thing
[13:42]<@jacky> friends daughter gets like 20 invites
[13:42]<@jacky> to be able to watch it
[13:42]<@jacky> since I am "uncle" , I get to watch
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> cool
[13:42]<@jacky> and, since I play with computers
[13:42]<@jacky> I get asked for help
[13:42]<+Craig> If they did a Livestream, you could have up to 50 viewers.
[13:43]<@jacky> "can you figure a way to capture it, and save it"
[13:43]<@jacky> they will be in antoher country
[13:43]<@jacky> no way for them to do it
[13:43]<@jacky> their wedding people told her 20 max
[13:43]<@jacky> no matter
[13:43]<+Craig> I have an active way for them to capture the screen and I can show you how to save it.
[13:43]<@jacky> what I need from you guys, is help on trying to figure out how I can capture it
[13:43]<+Craig> Ooooh, this is by someone else., :P
[13:43]<@jacky> what do you mean "active way"
[13:43]<@jacky> and who is "someone else"?
[13:43]<+Craig> Well you can do a Livecaster to record what your watching.
[13:44]<@jacky> what is a livecaster?
[13:44]<+Craig> There is someone else at the wedding who would be broadcasting the video
[13:44]<+Craig> Livecaster is a screen capture software,
[13:44]<@jacky> they are paying for that, in their package... yes
[13:44]<+Craig> allows you to record what you see on your screen
[13:44]<@jacky> is Livecaster free?
[13:44]<+Craig> Yes,
[13:44]<+Craig> Your friends are getting ripped off. :P
[13:45]<@jacky> and that is what I would want to install on y computer, to save it for them?
[13:45]<+camerongray> Yeh, Just stick a laptop somewhere and run livecaster
[13:45]<@jacky> Yes, they are probably getting ripped off... no doubt. heheeheh
[13:45]<@jacky> what laptop?
[13:45]<@jacky> I don't have a laptop....
[13:45]<@jacky> I have this computer. that's it
[13:45]<+camerongray> At the wedding
[13:45]<+Craig> heh
[13:45]<@jacky> I'm here
[13:45]<@BC_Programming> cam please pay attention
[13:45]<@BC_Programming> :P
[13:45]<+camerongray> lol
[13:45]<@jacky> wedding is 2,000 miles away, in another country
[13:45]<+Craig> He means use your computer to record the wedding while your watching it Jacky,
[13:45]<+Craig> Cameron is not really listening. :P
[13:45]<@jacky> that causes confusion
[13:46]<@jacky> :)
[13:46]<+camerongray> lol
[13:46]<@jacky> ( http://www.karismahotels.com/sub-page/sky-wedding-cam if you can pick up any useful info there )
[13:46]<+camerongray> If thet are streaming - You can just use a screen recorder on your end
[13:46]<@jacky> is livecaster a screen recorder?
[13:46]<+Craig> yes
[13:46]<@jacky> link?
[13:46]<+camerongray> But they would be better recording on their end if possible - Better quality
[13:47]<@jacky> I get one shot at this... they don't let people play in advance...
[13:47]<@jacky> they are going to be in another country! nobody to do it for them
[13:47]<+Craig> If you setup TeamViewer I could set it up for you Jacky, :)
[13:47]<+camerongray> "The following?Wedding Videos only work on IE (Internet Explorer).?" - mmm compatability
[13:47]<@jacky> It is not like they can just have any old body stop on by
[13:47]<@jacky> why can't I set it up?
[13:47]<+Craig> You can, I was just saying for simplicity, :)
[13:48]<@jacky> I saw that stuff about IE... could be accurate... could be BS
[13:48]<@jacky> are you finding me a link that you approve of? for this livecaster thing?
[13:48]<+camerongray> looking now
[13:48]<+camerongray> If I were you I'd just run something like camtasia on the live video and just crop out the rest of the screen
[13:48]<+Craig> He doesn't have Camtasia...
[13:49]<@jacky> what is camtasia
[13:49]<@jacky> and why crop out anything?
[13:49]<@jacky> she just wants it saved.
[13:49]<+camerongray> It's a program that records whatever is on your screen
[13:50]<+camerongray> You would need to crop out the taskbar.etc and just keep the video
[13:50]<@jacky> I need reliable , as Number 1 consideration
[13:50]<@jacky> no
[13:50]<@jacky> that's number 2
[13:50]<@jacky> number one is Free
[13:50]<+Craig> http://www.livestream.com/platform/procaster <- this is the procaster software, you can use it to record, :)
[13:50]<@jacky> not Livecaster?
[13:50]<+Craig> I was incorrect, Sorry :P
[13:51]<+camerongray> Camtasia is expensive but I think you can use the trial
[13:51]<@jacky> camerongray: depends on what is limited by the trial, I suppose
[13:51]<+Craig> he could just download my copy, and use the installation instructions, but I think Jacky is against pirating. :P
[13:51]<+camerongray> 30 day
[13:51]<@jacky> no.. jacky doesn't mind "pirating"
[13:51]<@jacky> but we don't usually go into detail here in this channel
[13:51]<+Craig> Ohhh HEH! :)
[13:51]<+camerongray> lol
[13:51]<@jacky> a protocol thing
[13:52]<@jacky> is that Procaster free software?
[13:52]<+Craig> Yes that is free
[13:52]<+Craig> :)
[13:52]<@jacky> cool
[13:52]<@jacky> I'm jammed for time right now
[13:53]<+camerongray> You should try it beforehand - Some screen recorders have low framerates
[13:53]<@jacky> will look into it later this evening
[13:53]<@jacky> camerongray: suggestions on how to do that?
[13:53]<@jacky> I agree, but don't know how to do that
[13:53]<+camerongray> Just run it and move your mouse around
[13:53]<@jacky> where do I get a live feed to save?
[13:53]<@jacky> ohhhh
[13:53]<+camerongray> Then play back and check it is smooth
[13:53]<@jacky> it doesn't just work with a live feed?
[13:53]<+camerongray> No - Records your PC screen
[13:53]<@jacky> ahh
[13:53]<@jacky> ok
[13:54]<+camerongray> Like I do in some of my youtube videos - I use camtasia for them
[13:54]<+Craig> There is a link for you Jacky in the private chat
[13:54]<@jacky> replying there
[14:07]<@jacky> be back later
[14:07]<@jacky> camerongray: tnx
[14:07]<@jacky> Craig: tnx
[14:07]<@jacky> BC_Programming: tnc
[14:07]<@jacky> *x
[14:07]<@jacky> 
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[14:09]<+Craig> Never really gives us time to say goodbye does he?
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> he had to go
[14:12]<Tux2> lol, I'm making my first item dupe machine on a server I am on...
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> heh
[14:16]<Tux2> lol, they disabled placing of pistons...
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> well that is one way to prevent it I guess
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> one could just disable placing sticky or normal pistons to prevent it I think
[14:17]<Tux2> yeah, exactly
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> sorry I mean just one or the other
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> because you need both for the duplicator thing
[14:18]<Tux2> yeah, well, they disabled both
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> yeah thought so
[14:19]<Tux2> so now I can't make my self repairing house. :(
[14:28]<+camerongray> oooh - Start work tomorrow :D
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> I thought you already started
[14:32]<+camerongray> Nah - person was off
[14:32]<+camerongray> I hope I get to use WAMP server or at least something with PHPMyAdmin
[14:39]<@BC_Programming> I've never used a WAMP server or PHPMyadmin
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[14:44]<Tux2> lol...
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> I guess he was disgusted
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> heh
[14:44]<Tux2> I've used a wamp server
[14:44]<Tux2> and a lamp server
[14:44]<Tux2> Can you believe that someone was able to mess up a YML file?
[14:45]<@BC_Programming> yes
[14:45]<Tux2> http://pastebin.com/5LD7ub06
[14:46]<@BC_Programming> haha
[14:46]<@BC_Programming> even I can tell the indenting is totally wrong
[14:46]<Tux2> lol, yeah, it was worse before... he had 2 values on the same line
[14:46]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:50]<@BC_Programming> hahaha
[14:50]<@BC_Programming> just encountered a cave on the server
[14:50]<@BC_Programming> absolutely FILLED with red mushrooms
[14:51]<sonicrules1234> Tux2: Something just happened to the 2.7.2 server
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> it crashled
[14:52]<sonicrules1234> It's probably crashing because of those animal farms
[14:53]<Tux2> okay, it's back up
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[20:05]<@BC_Programming> just made a video that I think is downright hilarious
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> basically me going on a spree running people over in GTA4 while it plays my radio station, which I filled with pony
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[20:11]<@BC_Programming> It's too bad I kinda suck at the game though
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[21:39]<@jacky> see you all tomorrow
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